This is a conversation between Irina Zamfirescu (University of Bucharest, Romania) and Maria Persdotter (Linköping University, Sweden) that focuses on the contemporary migrations of Roma from Romania to Sweden and other wealthy EU states, and which seeks to contextualize these migrations with regards to the current housing situation and ongoing dispossession of Roma in Romania. The conversation was recorded in September 2022 and has been transcribed and edited for brevity and clarity.